How did you differentiate these two?
ADAM COPELAND: I wanted to let [the fans] understand, “Oh, this is different.
This is a straight up wrestling match.
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Contrary popular belief, you were supposed to hate the finish.
That was the goal.
[laughs] That is the idea.
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That’s the goal, guys.
You’re being worked.
And obviously your history with him and getting back into that.
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What is it about working with him that you guys are always able to make it fresh?
“Well, let’s get them involved in this.
Let’s figure out a way that we can get all of these different spinoffs happening.
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And I think him and I both give a shot to do that with our stories generally.
So that’s what what can keep it fresh.
Were you fan of his before from his New Japan stint before you came in?
And what made working with him so special?
COPELAND: I’d seen a little bit, but not enough to really have a gauge.
You know what I mean?
So I see a lot of similarities in in the way we structure things.
Its fun to be in there with a guy like that who really appreciates being there.
You and him remind me, youre two of my favorite sellers where you guys just sell everything.
COPELAND: Yeah, we we’re fighting to see who’s going to sell more.
Going back to some of the Christian stuff, obviously people want to see you guys team up.
Anytime he starts a feud, I always Google, Is that person’s dad still alive?
COPELAND: Yeah, it’s tough, man.
You know, we tried it with WWE out of necessity.
It was like, OK, we need heels.
Then I’ll give it a shot.
What do they love about this character?
OK, long hair, right.
The music, right.
The entrance, right.
Wait, now let’s take all that way.
Chop my hair off, become this megalomaniacal character that just is power hungry and all of those things.
It was such a switch.
It was also really bad timing.
I don’t think anyone fully thought through.
I didn’t think through.
Chances are people are going to be confused, and I think they were.
And it took a while to get past that confusion.
But then I also get the message that day, Hey, Randy [Ortons].
I’m like, OK, so much for those 30 suits I just had made.
To try and do it now?
Maybe it’s possible.
I think it becomes hard sometimes when people know the real story behind the character, right?
So I came back after nine years retired.
I was told I’d never do this.
Everybody knows the story, right?
You know, I’m sick of it, too, but it’s still there.
And they’ve grown up watching you, and their kids are now watching you.
It made her laugh.
But you also go see to it it’s right and not forced.
Because I tried to force it before and it just didn’t work.
We got Forbidden Door coming up.
COPELAND: El Phantasmo.
I don’t know what Jeff Cobbs status is, but I think that’s another fun one.
Gabe Kidd, that’s another fun one.
And that’s super cool, especially at this stage of my career, to challenge myself.
To go, OK, can I work this style?
Can I work that style?
So that that’s been really cool.
Unfortunately, you guys are impacted by the passing of the late, great Lance Reddick an amazing actor.
But then he’s recast with Courtney B. Vance, another amazing actor.
Does the series address it in any way?
Is it a straight-up recasting moment?
COPELAND: I honestly don’t know.
Or anything like that.
I just want to know, as someone who is a father to daughters, are you incorporating that?
Because the gods are pretty cruel.
COPELAND: Well, the gods are pretty cruel and Ares is next level cruel.
So, not really pulling any of my normal dad duties into how Ares treats Clarisse.
[Laughs]
Youre not the same.
You’re not the God of War of Parenting.
COPELAND: Im the God of Cuddles, here.
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