It must be something in the San Francisco water.
ELENA OXMAN: Definitely.
It’s a magical city.
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Very photogenic, very inspiring to film there.
That’s the setup of the film, but really, it’s a drama.
It’s about coming home to ourselves and acknowledging wounds that we might not have acknowledged in the past.
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OXMAN: I think that’s staying true to what life feels like to me as a writer.
ASIA KATE DILLON: The writing, first and foremost.
The story was so clear.
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It felt very, like you said, real.
I hadn’t ever read a script like this before.
I hadn’t read this particular story before.
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I hadn’t played this particular throw in of character before.
hey set up a meeting with the director as soon as possible."
The writing was the answer.
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It just spoke to me in a way.
LOUISA KRAUSE: I agree.
Sometimes scripts are just so jam-packed and there are all these words, and they’re just not necessary.
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I felt like less was way more.
Just the story andthe story of acceptanceI really could connect to it.
Also, the hearts involved, I would say, from the top down.
Our producers are just the sweetest.
They had us over to their home, all of us, the cast and crew.
It’s like the most diverse crew I’ve ever worked with.
It was honestly so inspiring, and I’m just so proud to be here with everybody.
I’m just grateful to be in this movie.
People speak when they would really speak, and it’s honest conversations.
Can you sort of talk about that aspect?
OXMAN: For me, a lot of that istrusting and respecting the audience.
I wish more people did.
I make films because I’m in love with the visual medium, so it can say so much.
The game is not real, as far as I know.
But it wasn’t called “Outerlands.”
OXMAN: It was not.
“Outerlands” is not real, that’s correct.
We did use a Super NES.
It’s entertainment, but for some people, it’s just an escape from the reality of life.
Is that something you thought about, or am I digging too deep?
OXMAN: Oh no, definitely.
It’s a self-soothing kind of mechanism.
So, it’s both.
For the three of you, you know the shooting schedule, and you see what’s coming up.
Sorry for my language.
DILLON: yo don’t swear around me.
Truly, every single day was a joy and also a creative challenge, which I love.
Cass wakes up on the couch and looks at the beer bottles.
Cass is running down the stairs."
BATEMAN: There weren’t days that Ididn’twant to do.
There were days that were more challenging than others.
It was just fun to show up.
We knew what we were signing up for, so we’re all game.
It’s so funny.
I thinkthe scene that gave me the most anxiety was running into the ocean potentially.
It was very cold.
So, yeah, lucky.
I don’t know if I can say it or not.
I want to know how you managed to get this band to give you a song.
DILLON: I can answer without telling you what the band is.
I wrote them a letter at the advice of our producers and our PR team.
Everyone was like, Just write them a letter.
Their records have been on repeat for me for, like, 20 years at least.
Magic and hard work and diligence made it happen.
It is one of my favorites of all time.
I’m almost out of time, but I like talking about editing.
So, you’re editing, you have a cut, you’re showing it to friends and family.
Did you jump out the window, or were you like, It’s coming together.
Just some small tweaks?"
OXMAN: [Laughs] Yeah, a little bit of both, I’d say.
It’s very nerve-wracking the first time you show what you’ve been working on to an audience.
It was just reassuring that we’re on the right track.
OXMAN: There were both.
There were definitely surgical cuts, but there was a substantial change towards the ending of the film.
It was nothing that wasn’t in the script, but it was cutting and pruning to streamline things.
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