COLLIDER: I want to start with Max at the end of season four.

What has it been like for you, getting to explore this new phase of Nick’s life?

And is there a real love there?

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MAX MINGHELLA: Nick’s not very good at marriage.

That’s what I’m learning.

Not his strong point.

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Another complicated marriage for Nick in quick succession.

I think there’s so much in the first interaction you see between Nick and Rose in the show.

So it’s obviously a meaningful relationship.

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You say that, and I’m calling in here from Virginia, which is Virginia is for lovers.

So if that’s the tagline forHandmaid’s Tale, that makes sense.

WHITFORD: It’s very similar to Virginia.

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What is his endgame here?

What is he hoping to achieve by publicizing Fred’s funeral?

WHITFORD: It’s really interesting.

I think it’s another example of Lawrence being led by the women.

I think initially, he thinks it’s an absolutely crazy idea.

That’s a very interesting idea."

And for my purposes, it moves us right past the questions about Fred’s murder.

It moves us just beyond it immediately.

Speaking to Fred’s murder.

It’s really interesting.

That whole episode is interesting because obviously Nick knows what happens to Fred.

Serena knows that June knows that Serena probably thinks that Nick probably knows.

And Max, I was wondering, what is it like to play with those layers of deception?

Because everyone is playing a game.

Everyone has their own plans that’s happening in that episode.

So I really enjoy that.

I’ve always enjoyed that in the show.

It makes it all the more good fun.

WHITFORD:Just to add, I think Max is right.

There is a particular joy on this show because of the spaces, because of the paranoia.

Lizzy and I have talked about it.

The term that we use is sort of swimming in the weird.

Do you think that paints a target on his back at all among the other men in Gilead?

It’s so interesting.

I think he’s always in a very dangerous spot.

So my last question is for Max.

MINGHELLA: I don’t know where it’s going.

I really don’t.

We don’t know what’s going to happen on the show.

I love working with her.

I love doing those scenes.

It is a thrill.

It’s a thrill to get to work with somebody [who is] that good.

It’s a little bit heightened.

It’s a little bit more-

WHITFORD: Yeah.

MINGHELLA: Lizzie and I …

I saw her last night, and we were saying, we never met before we did the show.

None of us had met before we did the show.

She never met [them] before she did the show.

And it is a miracle that there is some kind of onscreen connection.

It could go terribly wrong.

you’re able to set out to do it, but it could be very elusive.

MINGHELLA: It’s pretty intense.

There’s a lot happening there.

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