COLLIDER: One of the big changes that this show made this season was with Vanessa’s character.
What was your reaction when you found out this was the direction that your character was moving in?
AYELET ZURER: It was really interesting.
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There were many choices in this.
She doesn’t believe in fear.
She believes in the power of money, really.
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From her perspective, it’s money.
If I make money for you, then you listen to me.
It’s an interesting beginning.
Did you enjoy getting to play a somewhat different side of their marriage with Vincent [DOnofrio]?
We’ve never really seen them so distant before.
ZURER: It’s more than being just distant.
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There’s heaviness.There’s a real sense of struggle.
It’s a place where you wouldn’t see him or his wife, in the therapist’s office.
It’s beyond the genre, love.
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There’s some depth to it that I really, really enjoyed.
Speaking of the therapy sessions, talk about a place that we don’t expect to see Kingpin in.
ZURER: It’s very true.
They grow closer and closer, also, in physicality.
I’m glad you saw that.
But also,they can talk in a way that only they understand.
It’s almost like siblings with a secret language.
They have their own secret language, but they really solve everything in the house, just one-on-one.
That’s where they really open everything and talk.
Long live the Queenpin.
Do you feel like there was any part of Vanessa that considered a double-cross at that moment?
No, no, no, no.
But yeah, that was actually a discussion, and I so resisted it at the beginning.
There’s a gun and a key on the table, and the choice is there.
You’ve spoken about the love that’s there, even though it’s a bit unconventional.
ZURER: It’s very ruthless.
When is it unbreakable?
At some point, she jumps into the water in a way without even thinking, but more feeling.
She does what she needs to do emotionally.
I think it’s going to come with a price, eventually.
ZURER: She was always about eliminating threats.
That was always in her psyche.
I feel like that’s kind of what she is about.
She would do anything to protect Fisk and protect them.From her point of view, it’s worth it.
Once it gets dark, it’s dark.
Even in life, this is the moral aspect of the story, isn’t it?
From a performance standpoint, what did you enjoy about getting to spar with Charlie Cox?
The two of you have a fun little tete-a-tete in that scene.
I like him personally, so that was really nice to do.
It was a whole week of filming, and it was so much fun.
Because it was kind of unhinged at that point.
The characters are completely nuts.
Everybody’s losing it from their own perspective, you know?
It was just nice to act.
How does this set them up as a real power couple heading into Season 2?
ZURER: There’s nothing that I can say that will be halfway, to be honest.
I can say that.
ZURER: Oh, they’re strong together, that’s for sure.
But there are other factors coming in, soeverybody’s going to be affected.
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