Bernadette Manuelito (Jessica Matten) are able to find themselves in Season 4.

JOHN WIRTH: Well, I don’t think we set out to tell that story.

I’ve always invested a lot in that relationship.

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I think we suffered a little bit from this in Season 1.

Trying to figure out how to make her essential to the show was the challenge.

Sometimes, in those situations between two people, one person gets short shrift.

Emma Leaphorn (Deanna Allison) drives off, away from Joe (Zahn McClarnon) on ‘Dark Winds’

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It just occurred to me, and it seemed very vivid, that this was happening to her.

It was really beautiful because he was shocked at her… And it just sort of developed from there.

It just played out that way, which was good for us because it’s super dramatic.

Joe Leaphorn (Zahn McClarnon) looks frightened looking up in a chair on ‘Dark Winds.'

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Ordoyou think it was necessary?

With cream or not?"

So, for us, it’s really given us a lot to play with.

A close-up of the ‘Dark Winds’ Season 3 poster, with Jessica Matten as Bernadette Manuelito and Kiowa Gordon as Jim Chee in the forefront with Zahn McClarnon’s Joe Leaphorn in the background looking off-screen

It very much felt like something out ofTwin Peaks.

WIRTH: [Laughs] Yeah.

Vines (John Diehl) in the desert at the end of Season 2.

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The story just kind of built.

We knew we were going to address it in the sixth episode.

We struggled with that episode quite a bit.

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Then we just played through.

I was really pleased with the script.

Zahn [McClarnon] was really into it, and Jenna Elfman was amazing in the episode.

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It was kind of a dream.

It’s a very special episode of television.

Joe Leaphorn could use some fine coffee.

Dark Winds

Yeah, it’s phenomenal.

It’s just really well done.

WIRTH: Yeah, it just really worked.

You know,we completely created the endless desert there.

We shot it right where we shoot everything else, and the landscape looks completely different where we work.

At one point, it looked almost like it was a Jimi Hendrix album cover…

It’s like, “What is that?”

And then we finally just evolved it to what it was.

WIRTH: Well,her leaving came from one of the novels.

So, it was kind of set up.

So, we kind of set it up at the end of Season 2, so we played through.

I liked certain aspects of the novel,Sinister Pig.

Now it’s a question of, what is she doing there?

Did she come back for Chee?

Did she come back to rejoin the Navajo Tribal Police?

Is she going to be a private detective like Chee was in Season 2?

Is she going to get involved with the Navajo Nation, somehow?

It just gave us a lot of opportunities.

WIRTH: Yes, we’re doingThe Ghostway.

Dark Windsis available for streaming on AMC+.

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