I’d been doing similar to Ceara [Coveney], really, getting a lot of those moments.
I knew the unique characters Elaynes in the first book, or Elyas, things like that.
And I was like, Faile pulls on his beard, man.
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I really notice playing a character where the parameters are set by Robert Jordan.
The framework is there, and then the writers can weave in and out of that.
I was on the Two Rivers set while the show had to take a filming break.
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RUTHERFORD: There was something familiar.
It was like returning home to your hometown, but those old neighbors aren’t there anymore.
There’s a different car in the driveway.
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Then, when the military defense aspect came,we were very lucky that we shot our stuff chronologically.
It’s probably the best way to shoot it.
We went back to the village, and then we met these characters.
What was so lovely were those little scenes with Daise Congar or Marin or the young lads.
You just care about them.
RUTHERFORD: Yeah, I remember just being like, Oh, I started too low or too high.
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There are people in the show who can sing, like Donal [Finn] and Ceara.
It was just a completely different time.
I think time-wise in South Africa, it just didn’t work.
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Try and make me do it.
RUTHERFORD:That’s a directness to her that is just needed, and it’s just so refreshing.
keep your anger for the enemies.
Its these kinds of Saldaean prophecies, that she cares for the living.
She knows, These people are going to look to you pretty soon, and you oughta be there.
Don’t send me away.
There’s just an assurance and a powerful nature.
Its just that power, that no-nonsense approach.
Anytime he starts to think, I’m not too sure, he has her there.
You need a friend like that to just be like, Just fix up.
Even if he’s trying to be heroic and doing stuff, she’s her own person.
She yin-yangs with Perrin, butshe is completely her own person with her own motivations and can defend herself.
She doesn’t need him.
There’s something really powerful about that.
One relationship that’s less sweet is Perrin and Dain.
Who’s going to break that cycle?
RUTHERFORD: Jay’s wicked, man.
Its so lovely to work with him.
It’s like a version of friendship or understanding, but there’s also a tension there.
Dain has some level of morality, maybe more in the show in some regards.
I thinkJay was quite worried about that scene, because it’s quite hard.
You killed my dad, but why am I not beating you up?
Why are we not just rolling around on the floor fighting?
You know Natti Cauthon wasn’t a witch.
Its pulling on that side of him.
You’re not Valda.
Ive killed his dad.
So, I think that was quite lovely.
It isn’t black and white.
It isnt like Perrins the good guy, Dains the bad guy.
RUTHERFORD: What we did was lovely becausewe did it chronologically.
So, we did the mountain pass first, and that was filmed in the day.
It was a lot of rehearsals.
It just needs to be chaos, really people on top of each other.
It shouldn’t be too clean.
You’ve got the Aiel fighting style.
You’ve got Lan.
This is people getting stuck in, and people are going to get knocked over and fight and fall.
We rehearsed the sequence, which is in the middle, which is one shot.
That took a lot of time.
That was a lot of work.
You want people to think they can’t get out of an area.
You want to see these people that we’ve slowly met through the story.
It was a lot.It was a lot, and it was really knackering.
The armor was a lot.
I’m really glad you see it in the morning scene, after hes read Loial’s book.
It’s what you want to do.
I have to ask about the dual wield, because it’s such a huge thing in the books.
The moment when you pick up the hammer and the score kicks in is so badass.
From a technical standpoint, did you have to train to dual-wield?
So, you have gradients.
Like you said,there’s a metaphor of something that destroys and something that can build.
He almost becomes this sort of walking metaphor from the books.
There’s so much intricacy in the different fighting styles, like with the Aiel.
I quite like the fact that he is just sort of knocking people down and hacking away at people.
Perrin’s just like this juggernaut marching through the town, and thats what we wanted.
There’s less of doing splits and backflips.
It’s just absolute sheer power and it takes a lot, if you’re not left-handed.
It was a lot of my movements.
I’m passing people on to her, and shes climbing on top of shoulders and stuff.
It was really fun.
It was really, really fun.
What do you think is going through Perrin’s mind in that moment?
Is it about prioritizing the greater good, keeping the Two Rivers safe, over killing again?
He’s too scared.
The easy option is finally getting vengeance on this guy.
He’s had monologues with Ingtar in Season 2 about chasing him down and all these kinds of things.
What’s going to happen when he finally gets there?
Will the rage take over him?There’s this moment where Perrin thinks hell become something else.
There’s no difference between them if he continues in that way.
The scene of everyone grieving Loial is such a quiet and emotional moment.
How emotional was that to film?
You really get to see his performance.
I remember reading that in Dave Hill’s script.
It was just stunning.
Hes up at 2 AM, 3 AM.
Hes usually the first to arrive, the last to leave.
He’s not just a trolloc, he has to deliver… kind of Shakespeare’s sonnets.
He’s the backbone, the person who’s writing these stories.
RUTHERFORD: I think so.
Perrin’s just like, This is all because of me.
I’m at the center of this, and someone has to stop it.
Someone has to be the reason that this doesn’t happen again.
There’s something about that line initially, Ciaran wanted me to say ittothe village.
That’s the core of him.
Naturally, people do look to him, and he does make the right decisions with people.
That’s what that ending scene is.
Those are the things I love.
The wolf banner and things like that were iconography and motifs that I think are beautiful.
I think people are seeing that there is a lot of care and dedication to the books.
Shes a Czech wolf-dog that probably shouldn’t even be there.
I really had to work closely with that dog.
It was really nice, that scene.
The Wheel of TimeSeason 3 finale premieres next Thursday on Prime Video.
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