But I guess it’s been a while.
It’s been four years, so I’m excited.
I’m not a parent, but I would imagine.
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I love the reaction when he first finds out.
You somehow perfectly capture that new parent feeling of being happy and terrified at the same time.
Pete and Hetty did have time.
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Pete was probably a better father than Hetty was a mother, I would imagine, but maybe not.
I don’t know.
Mom has locked us in the house, and it’s like kids in their rooms.
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So, I am sure we will deal with issues of parenthood in the most immature ways possible.
This is also a really good episode for Trevor and Sam’s relationship.
Can you talk a bit about the evolution of Sam and Trevor’s friendship?
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I think because of what Trevor does,his actions from Sam’s point of view are irreparable.
There is no way back for Sam with this text.
The egg on her face is so bad that it’s just not good.
Trevor so crosses the line here.
Watching Sam push back on us, I think, is really exciting.
Then I was thrilled that Trevor then pushed back even more.
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I’m really enjoying this new, very intentional journey for them.
What can you tease about her relationship, and where would you like to see it go?
GRODMAN: I can tease that we’re going to keep being allies and enemies at the same time.
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For us,it was never about romance, really.
In those, they’re so similar.
I think we will.
I think the H-Money Nation will be in for some treats.
I’m really enjoying seeing them get outsmarted by Flower not once, but twice now.
She’s such a great counterbalance to those two.
It’s really fun.
GRODMAN: I agree.
There’s some really fun stuff happening [in last week’s episode] between Trevor and Flower.
They’re going to battle over capitalism.
It’s super fun.
We get to see that other side of Flower, which is great and really dynamic.
GRODMAN: Trevor feels like a Dave Matthews guy, so I would say definitely a Dave Matthews guy.
Oh my god, that’s hard.
Id probably take a Springsteen thing.
I also love that Trevor brings in Green Day with the little montage at the end.
I’m such a playlist person.
I make playlists all the time for when I’m writing.
Do you have a playlist for Trevor, and if you do, what’s on it?
GRODMAN: Oh, wow!
God, I should have a playlist for Trevor, shouldn’t I?
I’m sure there’s some Limp Bizkit on there.
I’m sure he’d have some 80s stuff when he was younger.
This is a really good question.
I’m sure Kurt Cobain was on there.
I’m missing a lot, but you get the vibe.
I could see Trevor as a Phish guy.
He definitely would have been a Biggie and Tupac guy.
Whatever I tell you, in five minutes Im going to think of something so much better.
You have me thinking about 90s movies, so I’ll do the flashy thing fromMen in Black.
That’s such a fun choice.
We’ve had a good handful of really great Trevor episodes this season.
What’s it been like this season to lean more into Trevor’s connections to the living world?
GRODMAN: It’s great.
His parents are still out there, his brother’s still out there.
So,he’s still living a pretty full life.
It can often bring with it an emotional punch.
He’s still having an impact.
I mean, he was on dating apps not long ago.
AI and Trevor are going to have such a great time together.
That sounds like a nightmare.
I would love nothing more than to direct on our show.
She’s so good.
It is particularly fun for us because it’s a very unique show.
It’s been a wild thing.
So, I’m hoping!
You guys have been renewed for two seasons, which is great.
What’s on your wishlist for Trevor?
What’s the big thing you want to manifest for Seasons 5 and 6?
Stephanie and my daughter [being] sisters is pretty funny.
So, it’d be great to have her back and do more with that.
Lastly, to tease the finale in just one or two words, what can you say?
What can we expect?
GRODMAN: All of us will be involved, and it’s going to be very unexpected.
Ghostsairs on CBS on Thursdays at 8:30 PM ET.
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