Music is also an instrumental aspect to the story, and Ethan Gold reveals his inspirations for his score.
COLLIDER: No one watching this will have seen the movie yet.
So, what do you want to tell people about it?
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He is going like this while youre talking.
ARI GOLD: Oh, he is telling me to shut up?
No, no, no [Laughs].
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Hes just having fun.
ARI GOLD: We’re doing our Gallagher brothers' routine.
We got in a fight yesterday.
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Actually, it’s the first time you almost punched me.
Wait, is this true?
ETHAN GOLD: I told him that next time, he was going to get it in the face.
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ARI GOLD: Well,Brother Verses Brotheris a pun.
It’s the combat of brothers and siblings and people who love each other.
We did this all in real life in the real city.
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But it’s not a documentary; it’s a performance in the real world.
What time of the day?
ARI GOLD: [Laughs] It was late afternoon.
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As darkness comes and our father is still missing, the darkness and fear about his loss takes over.
How much is everyone in those establishments aware of what’s happening?
How much is it this is really happening?
ARI GOLD: I would say in terms of the street, the street was 100% real.
The bars were a mix, so some people were with us and were aware of the camera.
It’s a mix.
One of the bars was fully unaware of what we were about to do.
It’s real life.It’s controlled real life.
When you do something without cuts, it’s possible for you to’t have a close-up.
you’re able to’t have a wide shot.
you’re able to’t cut to somebody holding a pencil.
All that was planned as well as we could, but then reality creates a different experience.
One of you almost gets hit by a car in the movie.
LARA LOUISE: Its us.
[Laughs] That was very real, by the way.
That’s what I wanted to know.
How close was that?
ARI GOLD: If you watch it frame by frame, the car was aware of us.
We ran into traffic.
I dragged her into traffic, I have to confess, but it created a nice moment.
It was scripted, and I wanted to do that.
I didn’t want to put my co-star at risk, but it worked nicely because it was real.
Then the camera knew to go back to Ethan, and Ethan has a real reaction.
ETHAN GOLD: I wouldn’t run into the street.
In reality, the camera is in a position where we weren’t going to get hit.
LOUISE: I’m not so sure about that.I think it looks as real as it was.
I will say that it plays very well, and it is surprising.
For both of you, what is it like being asked to be in something like this?
I felt like I was in San Francisco because Iwasin San Francisco.
Ari just guided me through it, and it was improv.
He gave me the idea.
It was super easy to talk to her.
She was super natural.
I like to think that we did that.
There’s a moment where Ari pulls Lara away from me.
I’m trying to pick her up, so to speak, just chat her up.
Let’s just brush it off.
It’s just another girl.
That kind of thing.
I would very much care, and I would get hurt.
I was deeply hurt.
you’ve got the option to’t help but be in a good mood hearing it.
It’s just one of those moments.
LOUISE: I think it really helps thatwe’re all playing versions of ourselves.
I think it went well.
Ethan, talk a little bit about the music and writing the music.
Which songs went where?
How much is that a collaboration, how much is that you figuring that stuff out?
Because music’s obviously a huge part of this movie.
We debated it hard.
There were like seven or eight different songs, some that I presented that I really pushed for.
Ultimately, for me,the filmBrother Verses Brotheris about separating from family, actually.
So, the song was a reflection of that.
It became a very simple underscore that I think tied to the neighborhood for me.
ARI GOLD: You brought in some other elements.
Then some of them moved to San Francisco.
BELL: Id like to say something about the soundscape, just being there live.
Ethan just created this incredible atmosphere with his piano.
Then, watching the movie, how the camera comes in and out of conversation, too.
That’s part of the score, as wellthe conversationin my opinion.
None of that was in post, right?
It’s pretty much that’s what it was.
It just caught us in moments and that felt very free and right for this.
‘Brother Verses Brother’ Featured Multiple Debut Performances
“Happy Birthday, Dad.”
How conscious were you of that when you were filming that?
I mentioned it to my brother on the last hill, and it became part of the story.
ETHAN GOLD: We worked with that; I ended up pushing him.
ARI GOLD: Lara plays shows in this neighborhood.
My last thing, your dad had an apartment in Russian Hill area for 60 years.
ARI GOLD: Rent controlled.
Was his rent at the end, like, $5?
The camera goes all the way into the apartment.
I’m like, Oh my god, he’s been there for 60 years.
This is your dad’s essentially last work.
I know there are some poems or there’s something else, but last on screen.
And it was his first acting role.
Brian’s a really great actor who’s been studying the craft.
Lara is a great performer as a singer, but this is her first time acting.
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